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Remote Roundup: Three New Shows!

March 19, 2007

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This last week saw the premieres of three new DeathWatch shows, and we're curious as to what you think of them. So we've listed them here to get your opinion on them.

"October Road" (ABC) -- The premiere episode scored a 5.8 in the 18-49yo demo. That's a pretty amazing accomplishment for a show that seems to be universally hated by critics. Maureen Ryan, in the Chicago Tribune, pulled out all the stops to trash the show: "This wretched show not only features a lead character who is an unredeemable nitwit but dialogue that manages to be leaden, preposterous and pretentious all at once." Damn. What'd you think?

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“Raines" (NBC) – Jeff Goldblum plays an investigator who hallucinates about the victims of violent crimes. Solving their murders, he gets himself into the kind of trouble that only an imaginary friend can bring. While the premise seems sound, there hasn't been a lot of critical love for the show, and viewers responded with pretty lukewarm ratings -- a 2.9 in the 18-49yo demographic. The show is ranked at number 10, with odds of cancellation at 74:1. Leave us a comment below.

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Comments

Aaron Johnson wrote:

raines is a great must see detective show,

october road is brilliant

but andy barker , however, is just as crappy as the other andy ricther show
so i hope nbc cancels "andy barker pi"
with the black donnellys
as a 2 for 1 deal

nbc
keep: raines
and
cancel: andy barker pi
black donnellys

Caren wrote:

I watched the pilot of Raines and was very pleased. I have always been a fan of Jeff Goldblum. I thought the show was very good and quirky like Jeff. The ending sealed the deal for me. I hope NBC gives it a chance.

Troy wrote:

Our family watched Raines and though it was fine, we decided it wasn't worth adding to our DVR list. We could see the ending coming a mile away, though I thought they'd tease that one out a few episodes at least. Mainly, we just didn't care for the character.

October Road, however, was worth tracking. We love Laura Prepon, and though we could also foresee the ending, we found ourselves curious about what the characters would do, how long the animosities would last, and where the stories might branch.

We love Andy Richter and the fact that the show has no laugh track (the laugh track on the Winner being one of the worst). We were underwhelmed, but we're willing to give the show a few more episodes to mature.

magnet school wrote:

Raines - plot like a million other tired and well-worn procedurals. Can't they find a better vehicle for an actor of Goldblum's stature? Take one part Monk, a dash of Sixth Sense, a smidgen of Dead Zone, a whole lot of Columbo . . . . . (sigh!)

Cathy P wrote:

Let's see, a dorky guy leaves the girl he supposedly loves and his idiot friends and doesn't contact them in 10 years (How is that possible? How did he not come home? How did they not call him? The premise is fatally flawed.) He writes a book that reams his friends and girl (unlikely-- the main character seems dumb as a post and certainly not likely to produce a bestselling book). Returns home and finds that his girl may have had his annoyingly precocious child. (Again-- if that kid is his, why didn't she contact him-- they were in love, right? At least she'd need some financial support.) The girl is now dating a truly creepy guy (hard to even look at him). The dorky main character blows off a workshop that he is supposed to be teaching at his hometown college (you would think that a professor or administrator would have noticed that the dim writer had fled and checked on him/talked him out of a panic attack so that the full auditorium of (presumably) paying students wouldn't just get the shaft). Etc. etc.-- the silly plot unfolds. Who wrote this illogical show? Who cast these dimwit actors? October Road is worthless.

christy wrote:

Before I saw October Road and Raines, I was looking forward to Raines but was sadly dissapointed. The ending was obvious and I also agree with an above poster that they should have teased a while longer on his partner.

October road was enjoyable and I look forward to seeing how the characters stories develop. Certainly a better show to have after Grey's on Thursday nights than the last two they have tried.

Andy Barker wasn't even good enought to devote my full half hour to...I had DVR the show and only watched the first 15 mins or so...

Mozz wrote:

It amazes me how many people liked the Kevin Williamson "Glory Days" inspired October Road. Not only is obnoxiously cliched, but it was uncomfortably white. Not only was my intelligence insulted, but I was bored within the first nine minutes. Why are tv audiences willing to support mediocrity is beyond me.

Historian wrote:

I'm quirky, Jeff Goldblum is quirky, so adding 2 + 2, I'm going to say that since I liked Raines, and generally (with the exception of Heroes and Jericho) most shows I like get cancelled, I have this sinking feeling Raines will go. I liked the pilot episode, love the plotline that Raines appears to be talking to himself, when he is talking to the "ghosts", and I'll watch Jeff Goldblum read the phone book. Keeping my fingers crossed that this show will pick up an audience and that NBC will give it a chance.

Len Anderson wrote:

I liked Andy Barker. Richter is hillarious, as he was in Andy Richter Controls teh Universe. It needs some time and a good slot. Raines, come on! Goldblum was good in the Fly, but this show is unwatchable in my opinion. I didn't like October Road at all. All this being said, I'm sure Andy Barker P.I. will be cancelled first.

Dan Steinmiller wrote:

I haven't watched OR yet so I'll pass judgment on that show on a later date. As for the Raines - its a keeper. This is a perfect role for someone as strange yet enjoyable as Jeff Goldblum and NBC would be fools not to give it a chance and let it start building up an audience. When it comes down to Andy Barker, P.I. - I think the show started off great but needs to stray away from the cartoony villains(in future eps)and it will be a more solid half hour show. Overall, I think Raines is sure bet while AB isn't far from being one too.

Malachy wrote:

October Road and Raines (though pleasant):boring. Andy Richter: Funny at times. Deserves a chance.

april wrote:

I really like this show! i dont know why some critics are bad talking it, it is a cute and fantastic drama that deserves it's time on primetime!

Monkey Phat wrote:

I haven't watched Raines because I dont' trust NBC one iota. If the show makes it through the season AND is renewed for next year, I'll watch. Right now I'm so ticked off at NBC for not renewing Friday Night Lights, there's no way I would take a chance on a new show of theirs.

What is it when them and their axe. So many shows were killed off because they didn't have blockbuster ratings right off the bat. If "The New Adventures of Old Christine" was on NBC, they would have killed it after the first few shows.

It's like they completely panic and not only stop production, they won't even show the remaing episodes.

Does anybody know why NBC is axe-heavy? More mature/patient people over at NBC & ABC maybe?

Dan Steinmiller wrote:

I just finished watching the first 2 episodes of October Road and its already official to me - I hate it. The premise is ridiculous and hard to swallow, the characters(except Laura Prepon)aren't interesting or really likable and the dialogue is just unbearable to listen to at times. ABC needs to rid itself of this show like its the friggin' plague and bring back "Men in Trees" already - at least that show has something going for it while October Road is already dead in the water as a series.

Kathy Ek wrote:

I have wached the first two episodes of Raines, and I think it is wonderful, so I really hpe that they continue with it.

Kathy Ek wrote:

OKay, so I love Raines, and the pilot of Andy Barker P.I. was fun, I have to say, as much as I love Laura Prepon, October Road is trash, and I would not be sad to see it canceled

Barbara Young wrote:

I liked the first episode of Raines. It is just a little bit slow, but I enjoy the premise and the character. Given time, there is hope for it.

Galvinator wrote:

I watched an episode of Raines when it was called Medium and I wasn't a fan then. After watching the first 5 minutes of October Road I not only disliked the characters but felt embarassed for the actors who had to play the parts. Finally when will the networks learn that Andy Richter cannot carry a show and should just go back to being Conan's sidekick.

ladynora wrote:

I love Jeff Goldblum! I was excited and because I usually crash out before 10 pm I set my VCR. Guess what the pilot episode, well the first 30 minutes of it was preempted by the Trail Blzer game! I live in Oregon and we are served by the Portland, OR NBc affiliate. I was forced to download the pilot from iTunes. I loved it, especially without the commercials.
However, my affiliate did not give me prior warning about the Miss America debacle so I missed the second episode! So, whoever is keeping count of viewers I hoped they took that into account. What am I saying it's NBC they are always moving stuff around.
I hope Raines gets past this.

Elizabeth wrote:

I liked Raines--no, not the most original idea out there, but enjoyable and Jeff Goldblum is worth watching. Haven't and won't watch Andy Richter; just not interested. October Road--I agree with the previous poster who pointed out the many ridiculous bits of the plot. Laura P. had this guy's kid and never told him, never needed money, etc.? and gets over being mad about his never coming back in about 2.2 seconds? Huh? His family lives in that town and he didn't come home for Thanksgiving or Christmas once in ten years? I don't know if this guy is an idiot, but somebody writing this dreck sure thinks the audience is.

BCulver wrote:

Jeff Goldblum is perfect in this role BUT I wish he would speak just alittle louder. I have to keep adjusting the sound. This is a show that absolutely will find legs and a strong audience, if given a chance. It is subversive and fun the way The Riches is fun and subversive.

Aaron Johnson wrote:

i think that raines really interesting
because it has a film noir storytelling feel
that is really amazing and inspiring

not only did i love the pilot
but i also loved the newer episodes
after the pilot as well

and i'm a really big fan of jeff goldblum

as for andy barker pi, cancel it

jessieflower wrote:

I think October Road is absolutley brilliant. I love the Characters and the way the little boy reacts to Nick and his mother. I think the show had the potential to go far.

sandisullivan wrote:

being an irish girl, i really want the black donnaly's to survive. i think it has potential. but i loved raines. jeff goldblum is terrific, the plots believable and it adds some comedy making the usual detective unusual. watch out adrienne monk.

Jennifer wrote:

I LOVE October Road. The music was great and the story was terrific. I am curious to see how everything unfolds and comes together with the story line. I hope it continues to do well. I was afraid to get wrapped up in a new show because everytime I do, I get burned and they cancel the show especially with ABC. I am still very mad about "THE NINE"

Becky wrote:

Bring back Men in Trees - this October Road is dreadful, boring and I am not going to watch one more crummy episode.

Gdolyn wrote:

I like Raines because it is different. Of course, it is farfetched, but it is a TV show after all. I like Andy Richter because no matter how dumb some of the things he does are he gets the job done. October Road is just so-so.

I love Standoff, but they say it may be cancelled. Usually, about one or two out of ten shows I like do not get cancelled.

Dan wrote:

I think that Raines is unwatchable. It had glacially slow pacing, and although I liked the Noir-ish aspect to it, how many times can you go over the same stuff? I only watched the first 45 minutes, which seemed like 4 hrs.
The Black Donnelly's is a solid show, much like an Irish Sopranos. Interesting plot twists, but you need to see all the episodes to get into the plot-lines. If it was repeated as often as the Sopranos, it would be a hit.
Andy Barker is a good offbeat show. It has a great physical comedy element to it, and Tony Hale is awesome. Again, sadly, this one will problably get cancelled, like his other shows. And Arrested Development, it seems like the comedies that don't use the same tired formulas that are not animated never succeed. And King of Queens has had how many seasons? The Wal-marts of comedy always seem to succeed. I guess that is the state of the country today.

NightHawk wrote:

Raines: another "I can communicate with Dead People show"; it is just one to many. First it is boring, secondly as usual with Jeff Goldblum he likes to ramble on and on instead of stating a point and stopping there. I could only stand 30 minutes of this show and had to turn and watch CSI re-runs.

Have not watched "October Road or Andy Baker", probably because it is on while my favorite shows are on and have not been impressed with the previews enough to check them out.

careship wrote:

If you want to know what is going to get cancelled all you have to do is come and see what I am watching every night. Those are sure to be gone. I refuse to say what of those shows I am watching for fear that it will disappear. Just to prove it, my favorites in the past were Vanished, Justice, Studio 60, The Nine, Invasion, Surface, Kidnapped, 3 Lbs.....you get my drift. I think I need to stop watching TV altogether because all I ever get is disappointed. I get into a show and then it's just gone. I no longer want to invest any of my time in TV because seriously, who needs that much disappointment all the time?

Maria wrote:

Raines pilot was a not great but I always give a show a couple of trys. I am glad I did because it got much better. It got some heart and now I love it.

lola wrote:

Love October Road! I think its great and much better than Men in Trees! Although, I agree with the other viewers -- its hard to get into a new show when the stations keep axing everything! Let's keep our fingers crosses that OR stays! :)

Dan wrote:

October Road works for me. Beautiful Girls is a personal favorite "small movie" and I can see some that formula at work in October Road. The two leads Nick (Brian Greenberg) and Hannah (Laura Prepon) are both engaging and sympathetic, even when in conflict with each other. The most recent episode rocked the stadium of my heart, even if Nick missed the mark with Hannah. The core story works for me so that I'll give time for the side stories and characters to develop. I like this show.

Monkey wrote:

I only saw the first episode of October Road but I thought it was decent. Men in Trees is horrible! How is that show still on the air? The Black Donnellys is really good (even if it is a blantant rip-off of Showtime's Brotherhood). I can't figure out why it has 4:1 odds on the Deathwatch. It is scores better than a bunch of the shows that have better odds of survival.

Mel wrote:

Raines: I like Jeff Goldblum and I'd like to see where his character is taken..unfortunately, I'm not that interested in the rest of the drama (the case he's trying to solve). I only tuned in to the second and third episodes because Jay Hernandez is smoking! And I really like Laurie Metcalf.
October Road: I missed the first part of the premiere episode, and I caught it right when Nick and the co-ed met amidst contrived "sparks". I thought their dialogue was ridiculous, especially her lines and I probably would have switched channels if it wasn't for Brian Greenburg's disarming half-smile and boyish, yet sexy twinkling eyes...I'm glad I stuck around because I was rewarded with Laura Prepon's conflicted, thoughful and intelligent performance. I was really surprised. I thought she had a few brilliant moments back on That 70's Show, but then I saw her in an Oxygen movie recently and her performance seemed flat and unconvincing. But I think she shines in this show. I don't see Donna Pinciotti at all. I totally buy her in this new role and I can't wait to see how her character develops. Overall, I still think some of the "witty" dialogue is preposterous, but the feeling of watching a high school play is greatly dimishing with each new episode. It's not original, but I don't think it tries to be. It's sentimental, but I don't feel as if I'm being told to cry every episode. In fact, I don't feel like they're shoving any character down my throat...well I have to take that back because I can see where they're headed with Big Cat. I hope they don't paint him as too obvious a villian. Complicated, sympathetic villains are best, they make for better conversation. Obviously, I'm hooked. I really, really hope they don't cancel this show. There's much worse out there.
Andy Barker P.I.: I love Andy Richter so I really wanted to love this show, but it's just okay. Good luck to it, but I'm not a diehard.

Cindy Mac wrote:

I absolutely LOVE Raines!! The show is developing very nicely and Jeff Goldblum is great. NBC needs to pick this show up and give it a chance.

bekah wrote:

I absolutely adore October Road! I work on Thursday nights so I always have to watch it on the internet Friday night, but the characters are wonderful. The little boy and Laura Prepon are by far the most interesting and engaging characters. Please ABC, keep this one around!

Donna wrote:

Raines; I love it. Of course since I am not 18-49 years old, it will probably be cancelled. The networks are putting much too much faith in that group to the point that they are going to lose a lot of viewers. With the exception of 1 program, I have totally quit watching any program on ABC. Everything I liked this year, they cancelled so I figure it is better not to watch at all. NBC is starting to get on my last nerve also. I would be willing to bet that CBS looks as all the demographics, not just the 18-49. Thanks goodness for CBS.

Chris wrote:

Watching October Road is a wonderful way to kill an hour. From our own experiences in life, we all know that one person that got pregnant, the one person that we collectively thought to be the biggest jerk or nerd, and the one person that really dared to challenge their life and do the unexpected. Life is drama and this is good drama. And, since these experiences are very REAL, I think people can relate to it at many different levels and it will appeal to people at many different ages. It's a feel good show with many possibilities. I look forward to many more cozy Thursday nights watching this show.

Phyllis Seeger wrote:

In OR it is nice to see a show for once that has no gays, no violence and hopefully no rascial tensions. They can even keep the real trashy sex out of it. Its just people going about their daily lives. Our society seems to really have to be majorily stimulated all the time. Take a minute and kick back and relax. I also enjoy Men in Trees, hope it does come back. Its a great show. Raines is also not to bad, it just seems like a change of pace compaird to all the crappy reality shows out there, with there bad acting. Hopefully ABC, CBS and NBC are getting back on the right track. I am also a fan of The CLass. I thought that that was one of the funniest shows of the fall season

Jenn wrote:

PLEASE, powers that be, stop producing more horrible episodes of October Road! The dialogue alone is juvenile, and riddled with ridiculous cliches. The story can't really develop into anything more than a predictable love story--it should just go ahead and end now. The reporter who described it as 'agony to watch' was correct. Not only are the characters not at all interesting, but the premise is not believable and stale.

Sharon wrote:

Raines Rocks. For those who like sly humor mixed with an unusual approach to crime solving should give this a chance. It's an acquired taste; Jeff Goldblum's throwaway lines are hilarious; the plot is secondary to the cast and the great art direction.

LYORK wrote:

When it comes to Raines, there's nothing else better ~ quirky, innovative, well-written ~ It's fresh, funny, and fun to watch. No wonder NBC wants to cancel it :(

erin p wrote:

i love RAINES. i stay home to watch it! the cast is wonderful. it nice to see Jeff Goldblum every week. i hope they give it another chance.
as for the other two shows. they bored me.

meli wrote:

I don't know why I watch October Road. The critics are absolutely right- the dialogue totally sucks, half of it isn't believable, and the acting isn't exactly the best, and yet I still want to watch it. *shrugs*

Jane Gaffigan wrote:

My husband and I absolutely love Raines. Jeff Goldblum is at his best with clever one-liners, great expressions. I'll be really disappointed if it isn't back in the lineup for fall.

ambermay wrote:

I love Raines!! The only shows I record if I'm not home is Raines and Entourage!

Jeff is brilliant and the show if fun and interesting!

Great show!

Dan wrote:

I'd be fibbing to myself if I were to say that I'd thought every episode of Raines has been consistently interesting and well-written. I think that is the factor that I was paying attention to the most... when suddenly Raines seemed to disappear.

It seems totally unnecessary to mention Jeff Goldblum's talent. While I wouldn't describe the program as perfect I have been looking forward to watching it each week. It is a rarity in a programming world that seems intent on offering banal and completely un-inspired content. I mean, does this sound familiar to you? "Ripped from the headlines !!!" I call it a warning and it suggests the biggest problem in television programming at the moment. Cowardness by networks to pursue anything that might offer any risk in terms of viewer experience. Needless to say this is not the world of Bertoldt Brecht... It continues to astound me that Sesame Street seems to end up with the most creative results of anything on the tube. As an adult, yes, I still am very amused.

Raines is not perfect, but it is enticing. Face it, everything unexpectedly cool and worth watching... has a way of being canceled much faster because it requires an investment from the producers and viewers towards actually sharing and learning to become part of interesting (if we are lucky) new idea. Oops. Time investment, an absolute no-no in television. How quickly they will forget the story of Star Trek and how it dived so early on. Can we even say it dived? It took forever to become recognised at all.

I say give Raines a big, big chance. Reality (especially at NBC) suggests something else.
Apparently that image you saw of Jeff Goldbum tottering in a dangerous to write role, was just a figment in your imagination.

Laura Bush wrote:

I loved Raines and think Jeff Goldblum is marvelous. I'm sad that NBC didn't renew this show - it certainly deserved to be. This is why I watch very little television - the programmers have no idea what shows are good and only want to appeal to the trash market that the 20 and 30 somethings like to watch. NBC missed the boat on this one.

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